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Hey Ben! Love your content! I just wanted to chime in with a couple of quick notes. If you navigate to the address of the charger the truck will not precondition, at least at the time of this writing. You need to select the charger on the map in the navigation. When you do that, it will precondition as expected. It will also do it if the charging stop is added automatically as part of your trip. The Tesla site is great for planning, however the Rivian navigation will display Tesla superchargers that are compatible so long as you deselect the option to "hide sites that require an adapter" which is enabled by default. Lastly, you can select preferred networks. In my case I like to select Rivian and Tesla. If you want to plan out your trip ahead of time the Rivian app has a trip planner as well 😎. You can tell which Tesla sites are magic dock vs NACS as well. The NACS sites will have a blue message that says "adapter needed". The Tesla supercharger option is truly a game changer!

I’ve signed up for the Tesla monthly charger discounted rate plan. To use this, have the Tesla app open and ready to select the actual charger you will be charging at. As soon as you plug the adapter/NACS charger into your Rivian, select the charger to bypass the Rivian handshake, and charge directly from your Tesla account. Works every time for me. If you don’t, it will perform the handshake with Rivian and bill your Rivian account, I believe, at the higher non-discounted rates.

I would be careful about installing an outlet without saying it's for an EV. If the plug is not rated high enough for the amount of energy needed to charge an EV, you can have a meltdown and a potential fire hazard.

I can’t imagine Tesla owners giving a Rivian driver the dirty look. I love both brands, and I would be excited to see a Rivian pull up (and take up only one spot.)

I just did the trip from the San Diego area to Monterey this weekend in my R1T and used Tesla Chargers for most of it. I have an R1T Dual with a Long Range Battery for reference, and I have the same adapter as you do in your video (A2z). I left my house and our first night was in Ventura. I charged at the Tesla Charger in Ventura even though I was still over 50%. In San Luis Obispo I stopped for about 20 minutes and charged at the Tesla Chargers there (I did not want to rely on our hotel charger in Cambria - which it turns out was open and an 11KW charger, so I could have charged from empty to full overnight). The next day we went to Monterey via the 101 because they closed the 1 at Big Sur again, and our hotel charger did not work, so I charged at the Tesla Charger in Sand City right next to Monterey. For the drive home, we crossed over to I-5 and stopped at the VERY BUSY Rivian Adventure charger in Buttonwillow. We charged almost to full there because we were having lunch, and were able to make it all the way home on that charge. Here are some things I figured out for this first go with Tesla Chargers. 1. It is worth it to subscribe for the month you are traveling. The cost is $12.99 + Tax, so call it $15.00. You can cancel any time. I did the math and depending on the cost at the specific charger you are on, you make it up in one charge. The chargers on this trip are very expensive, most of them were $0.70+ per kWh, which was usually about $0.41 with the subscription. 2. To Navigate to the Tesla Charger I found it best to find the available chargers in the Tesla app, then select that charger on the Rivian Nav, and it would precondition. You can do all of this from the Rivian Nav too, but only in the Tesla app can you see the prices you will pay, so I found it worth it to start there. 3. When you get to the charger make sure you select the charger you are parked in front of in the app to get the subscription pricing, don't just plug in. If you plug in without activating the charger through the app, you get charged full price. 4. I was surprised to find that if a charging station had any chargers that were not V3, it did not show up in the app to activate. An example is the Tesla Charging Station that is in the center of Monterey. It does have some V2 chargers and some V3. I could not bring that one up in the app to activate, so I had to drive a few miles up to the Sand City Charger. No big deal if there are a lot of chargers around, but it could be if you were somewhere with sparse charging options. I did not try to plug in to a V3 that was not listed in the app and see if it would charge at the higher cost, but I should have for the sake of science. 4. I did not have a single issue blocking chargers, at every site I found and end charger or a charger mounted horizontally to the parking space like in your video. 5. I expected some stink eye, but did not have a single issue. This was a very easy experience. Great Video Ben. I am a long time viewer, but this is the first time I had something to contribute that was on topic!

Ben... that "stink eye fella", people make weird tribes eh?

Hey Ben, it’s nice that you cover all these electronics and solar devices. There are so many EVs now. How about having a show on comparison between the vehicles. Sometimes I can’t get the info I need to choose from. Like heat pumps and interior clean up Hope you’ll get it done.

I got my outlet added in my garage for about $200 including supplies. When I bought my house, the electrician was helping me redo my old outlets in the home. I asked if they could add the outlet (my panel is also in the garage) and he did it in 10 minutes and had the outlet and cables already in his van.

We are a family of 5 with 2 EVs - Model Y and Ev6. Any consideration of Ev9? 3 rows of seats would be really nice, no?

Nice video man! I don’t speak for all Tesla drivers, but I can tell you I’m thrilled that Rivian, Ford and Mercedes are able to use the Supercharger network! Not all Tesla drivers are Elon fan boys. Some just love EVs. Thanks for advocating for courtesy as we share these chargers. Love the Rivian! I want one!

Bad advice on EVSEs. You don't want a plug, you want your EVSE hardwired. Hardwired is safer and you can get a higher current connection. For a Tesla Wall Connector you will need a 60A line which will give you 48A 11KW charging. If you have a truck then you might want to install an 80A EVSE which requires a 100A line. Installing a 100A line might require a new panel and a service upgrade, that's where the $5000 number comes from. Most people won't require a new panel. It cost me $750 to run a 60A line for my Tesla EVSE. I had already done a panel upgrade several years earlier when I put in my first EVSE. That upgrade to 200A service and a new panel cost me $2800. I don't assign that cost to the EVSE, it was something I should have done 20 years earlier. My electrician told me my panel was a hazard back in the mid 90s. When I had my first EVSE installed in 2016 my electricians son, who is running the business now, said he wouldn't be able to sleep at night if my old panel was in his house. That was the kick I needed to do the upgrade. For anyone with reasonably modern wiring all you need is a 60A breaker and a 60A line run. Don't play games with your electrician, you need the job done right. An EVSE is not a dryer, what's safe for a dryer is not safe for a EVSE. If you think an electrician is applying a Tesla tax just find another electrician but make sure it's someone who knows what he's doing.

I doubt you will ever do what JerryrigEverything has done with his.

Great video thank you for going back to basic info about living with EV , like it educational specially for newbie’s

I charge my 2020 Chevrolet Bolt EV on a conventional 110 volt outlet in my carport. For me this is convenient because I don't drive long distances everyday. As a matter of fact I am less than 3 miles from work which makes bicycle commuting pretty easy. Awsome video.

I am installing a Plug today for my EV I just got, I am doing it myself as honestly it doesn't seem hard. I haven't bought anything, but I researched and went to homedepot to see costs, I estimate $80-$110 and then the plug, I bought a 32 amp 240 volt plug because it was $140 and cheaper than the $200 40amp and I don't need 40 amp. I have used a level 1 12 amp for a week and it barely gets by, but it does without a problem. I could live off that, but for $80-$110 I can go to 2x voltage and 3x amp then yea I'll do that. 6x speed charging for cheap. So yes $2000 is insane/

To navigate my R1T to Tesla chargers, I have to use the Rivian app and send the route to the vehicle. Worked flawlessly for several road trips!

Hey Ben, did the adapter make a big difference for you to easily make the trips to/from Arizona in your Rivian?

I’ve seen a few Fords and Mercedes at the Superchargers so far, but not a Rivian yet. Glad to see that the network is opening up because that will push more and more locations into the future - as well as drive the adaptation of different lot configurations. As a driver of model 3/Y and CT, I’m really excited to see all the changes that are coming down the road. More pull through spots please!

I'm lucky I had a friend who works at a solar company hook me up with a 75ft run of wire to our garage! Was $400 for a 50 amp NEMA 14-50 socket install, plus the free Tesla Mobile charger that came with my model 3 and I charged that way for 4.5 years without issue. We upgraded to a Tesla wall charger last year using the same wiring. Here in San Diego

i just did the cost comparisson of average gas price/gallon in san diego vs price per liter in the UK, and it roughly works out at $5.45/gallon ifi did my maths correctly, and sadly, the prices for DCFC here in the UK (outside of tesla) are usually at around the £0.69-£0.79/kWh, and it sucks, however I have to use them like once every three months, so its not too bad

Wow I hope Rivian survives - it seems they probably will yeah big truck you do need higher capacity home charging unless tiny commute🤯

Instead of an adaptor, maybe an extension cable with the right plugs will be better.

I recently just witnessed a Rivian R1S owner attempting to Supercharge using that A2Z adapter. He spent well over a half-hour working that manual latch back and forth in an attempt to loosen it up enough that it would fully latch onto the Supercharger connector to allow charging to happen. It seemed like it was locked, but it was just not quite enough due to stiff internal components within the A2Z adapter. He did peak at over 200kW though once it happened.

I have a friend who is an electrician and he installed it for me for a six-pack of beer. We bought the high end NEMA 14-50 online for $89 and the rest was about $65 in parts we bought at home depot. My install was simple and it took 1 hr. - so yes, it is possible to not cost that much depending on your circumstances. I'm in CA as well

A2Z is also working on a DC extension cord that will solve a lot of the issues for non tesla's.

By default in the navigation, it hides chargers where an “adapter is needed”. Once you change that, compatible Tesla chargers will show up.

The battery wants to be the same temperature as us humans. If you are in San Diego, 'preparing the battery for fast charging' isn't warming it - that is what happens in cold climates. In your case it is pre-cooling it a bit since charging creates a temperature rise which can throttle the power.

A dryer outlet is only 30 amps, for a max charging rate of 24 amps (20% off the 'maximum' is NEC requirement for continuous loads). If getting a new outlet installed, definitely consider a 50 amp outlet, for a max charging rate of 40 amps. However, that will cost more because it requires much larger wire (#6 instead of #10) from the panel to the outlet. The breaker and outlet itself are about the same, as is the labor. You might consider even larger wiring, but the cost goes up quickly and charging at 40 amps is already a major improvement over 24 amps (40 amps allows over 70kwh in a 8 hour charge).

Had a Rivian road trip this weekend, used the lectron adapter and it conked on us twice.. eventually made it to the Electrify America one.... have the A2Z also so will give it a try next time... (own 3 Teslas, so not only a rivian person)

I cant see a big deal someone making a 6 foot extension cord for charging.

With all respect, Ben, NEMA 14-50 is an oven plug, not a dryer plug. Dryer plugs are 14-30. Love the channel.

You lucked out with that side mounted Supercharger. My polling of Magic Docks suggests that Rivians get between 140-to-160 kW rates at Superchargers -which is good! E-GMP vehicles get about 97 kWh when they plug in, but the good news is that said rate stays constant all the way to 80% -while yours dropped to ~13 kW. I surmise that their 800V drivetrain makes the difference…? Dunno.

Is tax savings the same for both?

I don't own one yet but I made an order 2+years ago and this is the order of events: Thanks for your order. As soon as we have a delivery date we will update you. It may take 3 months Sorry pandemics have affected supply chain. It may take longer than 3 months but we will update you. We have no delivery date. Supply chain is still a problem. We are not going to honor your initial price. The car costs too much to make. Now costs $15K more. Oops, we saw that you cancelled your order and we are honoring your initial price so you can come back. Production is ramping up but there's no service center near your area. We don't know when your car will be delivered. It would be a mistake to give you a car we can't service. Now we can deliver to your area although we still have no service center near you. If something happens me "may" cover the cost of transportation to the nearest center. Please complete your purchase. Your configuration is not available anymore. Choose form one of our already manufactured models. Please complete your purchase. You are still have not completed your purchase. You have until September of 2024 to complete it at the price your initially ordered it.

This EV owner has 9 years and 40k miles on the original Michelin tires with a 30K miles tread wear warranty. Normally let the car start moving before pressing the accelerator. You must like jack rabbit starts?

Who pays $8000 for what I call not FSD but a really stressful driving experience. Anyone buying this is nuts

All LFP-based batteries are great, it's always the BMS that fails and some cant handle HVACs. These are important factors in choosing brand.

So where do you charge at that super low rate? At home? Should factor in cost of panels and batteries then talk about what’s more affordable?

Great video mate. I am contemplating between model Y and Audi etron so this was perfect.

To maximize your savings. You have to buy it cash. Not finance not lease. Cash. Then you are talking about 300 to 400% Savings

it sounds awesome im from the philippines

I have driven a lot of EV. For me Tesla is Tesla but for Built quality the BMW is on another level let her try it.

I get to do a glovebox pin on my 2016 but the button is still nice

How do the panels hold up to hail? We get hail several times a year. 2 weeks ago we actually had hail between baseball and softball sized. It gets that big at least once every 1.5 years. Most of the time it's quarter or golfball sized though

It was the end of May 2024 when I went to pick up my MYLR W/W in Springfield Tesla dealership, NJ. Needlessly to say, I was excited. 0.99%APR was irresistible. My name plate on the car made me more heart-pumping. At the same time, I had seen horror videos about Tesla quality issue so I started look around the car. Immediately, I found that the driver side rear seat door was misaligned to a degree that rain water would pour in between the door and the window. In the frunk, there were two large bolts missing. I found one bolt / screw that was haphazzardly thrown in the frunk. On the edge of the driver side door had been dinged and scratched the paint. Someone did a paint patch job on that but the quality of the work was so terrible that it looked like a 3 year old did it at his pre-school. Also there was a streak of oil smudge on white interior seat. How could this happen? I don't know. Lastly, the odometer read 38 miles. A brand new car w/ 38 miles? I started to suspect that perhaps the car was used as a test-driving vehicle or something. My delivery manager rejected the car on my behalf and I've been waiting for a new VIN. My excitement turned into doubts and I just wanted to cancel the whole order and buy a Lexus or Toyota. Losing $250 deposit was one thing but I had already paid $5000 down payment for financing so I can't back out now. I am going to the same dealership again to pick up a newly assigned vehicle next week. I am not looking forward to it, frankly.

Hello, in addition to being a supplier of lamps, but also a supplier of energy storage, we hope to have the opportunity to cooperate.

My guess is it will be around 700-750hp and weigh around 5000lbs

MY needs a M3 layout upgrade, and CT tech

What a silly way to map a yard. Why not sell a smart roller wheel as an add-on that you use to simply walk around the area you want to mow, then have that map automatically uploaded to the mower? This would be a lot more accurate than trying to drive the mower using your phone.